November Clinker Breaker
Dear Tom,
I have no intention of getting into a pissing match with you or ABANA as that was all that the anvil shoot controversy turned into. However your comment that “the chapters belong to ABANA” leads me to believe that you still have the same inaccurate understanding that the ABABA board had when the controversy started. If you check you will see the only term that chapters agreed to when signing up as ABANA chapters was that they would promote the art of blacksmithing, the same as ABANA. Nowhere do the ABANA bylaws give it authority to govern the chapters. There was never a liability issue as the organizations are separate legal entities. Patty early on requested and received ABANA’s insurance policy and nowhere did it address anvil shoots or assume responsibility for the action of a chapter (regarding anvil shoots or otherwise). I know that chapter autonomy was the issue behind the anvil shoot controversy because my wife Patty Draper discussed that with me when she identified the issue and then went on to refuse to abide by ABANA’s ruling. All the smoke and mirrors over liability and safety will not change that fact. Bottom line, certain members of the ABANA board were shocked, then angry, that a chapter would dare to challenge their perceived authority and they used every means they had, threats, intimidation, but mainly the power of the press to try to keep their assumed control. Hence the reason for my current President’s Corner message, which is to keep those in our chapter that continue to be ABANA members informed as to what the ABANA board is up to, as ABANA continues to control the press and ABANA members will not get this type of information through an ABANA publication.
Concerning my summation of events I believe it to be accurate. When someone files a petition in a court against another it is called being sued and if you do a little research you will find that Kagele himself referred to the NWBA as the host affiliate of the 2006 conference in the newsletter he was editing.
As for Kagele, once people learn about his background and his current actions and see the liability he poses to the organization they will be better able to make a decision as to whether they want him (or the other board members that support his actions) to have another term on the board.
Finally, I don’t want to fight either. I would just like to see Kagele, Dorothy and Claire gone. Maybe then I will rejoin ABANA.
Bill Robertson
5079 Sundance Ln
Tallahassee FL 32309
applecrossforge@nettally.com
I have no intention of getting into a pissing match with you or ABANA as that was all that the anvil shoot controversy turned into. However your comment that “the chapters belong to ABANA” leads me to believe that you still have the same inaccurate understanding that the ABABA board had when the controversy started. If you check you will see the only term that chapters agreed to when signing up as ABANA chapters was that they would promote the art of blacksmithing, the same as ABANA. Nowhere do the ABANA bylaws give it authority to govern the chapters. There was never a liability issue as the organizations are separate legal entities. Patty early on requested and received ABANA’s insurance policy and nowhere did it address anvil shoots or assume responsibility for the action of a chapter (regarding anvil shoots or otherwise). I know that chapter autonomy was the issue behind the anvil shoot controversy because my wife Patty Draper discussed that with me when she identified the issue and then went on to refuse to abide by ABANA’s ruling. All the smoke and mirrors over liability and safety will not change that fact. Bottom line, certain members of the ABANA board were shocked, then angry, that a chapter would dare to challenge their perceived authority and they used every means they had, threats, intimidation, but mainly the power of the press to try to keep their assumed control. Hence the reason for my current President’s Corner message, which is to keep those in our chapter that continue to be ABANA members informed as to what the ABANA board is up to, as ABANA continues to control the press and ABANA members will not get this type of information through an ABANA publication.
Concerning my summation of events I believe it to be accurate. When someone files a petition in a court against another it is called being sued and if you do a little research you will find that Kagele himself referred to the NWBA as the host affiliate of the 2006 conference in the newsletter he was editing.
As for Kagele, once people learn about his background and his current actions and see the liability he poses to the organization they will be better able to make a decision as to whether they want him (or the other board members that support his actions) to have another term on the board.
Finally, I don’t want to fight either. I would just like to see Kagele, Dorothy and Claire gone. Maybe then I will rejoin ABANA.
Bill Robertson
5079 Sundance Ln
Tallahassee FL 32309
applecrossforge@nettally.com
posted by BGOP | 8:43 AM
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